I take issues with your conemmt. You are confusing the Libyan people with some west hate mongers who have been on the rise in numbers in recent years. Also you probably speak for yourself more than anybody else through your conemmt. I am American and you do not speak for me. The relationships between countries and individuals are not the same. If someone threaten you, you can move to another town to avoid problems, but countries are fixed and all conflicts had to be resolved so that they do not create instability to the rest of the world. The presence of Gaddafi is a threat the Libyan people and to everyone else including the USA. In terms of being civilized, it seams to be less common in places where people have been deprived of justice among other things, we have our share of the uncivilized people in the States as well.